Speak up, folks!
I use two operating systems. The main, which is Windows 7, and occasionally use Linux as virtual machines using Ubuntu. I sympathize with Ubuntu being a Debian-based distro.
However, I will propose a challenge. Apart from the games, I do in Windows can also do in Ubuntu. So, I resetting my records. For at least one month my PC is completely winless. I want to see how far I can go without Windows. I try to use Ubuntu as the main system for at least a month. I've been with me for many users the resistance to drop Windows is not a matter of necessity or willpower. The user simply uses this or that operating system for better fit, for identifying or pure personal taste. As I said before, taking the games, for what I do on the PC a distribution like Ubuntu is more than enough. For any emergency I could resort to using Windows virtual machines. But I have here in my case is pure personal taste, attachment, sympathy.
If I will miss the games, I'll try something with Wine. Angry Birds managed to install using PlayOnLinux, but failed to install TrackMania Canyon and NFS Most Wanted. I'll see if I can run games in Windows virtual machines, after all, would only be using Windows as a game.
Now, I confess: it hurts me to write this post. But it is worth testing.
Edit.: Test canceled. See my next post.
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Very cool what you will do!
I think in your case will be very good course will give an early desire to go to Windows, not because it is better or no longer, but as you said, a matter of custom.
I'm curious as 1 month from now!
Good luck!
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I've tried doing this and decided instead to keep the windows 7 installed and virtualize ubuntu. But really the best way to get used to using ubuntu (linux in general) is being "forced" to use it every day.
In my case they did not think I could play all the other things running on ubuntu too.
Hugs and good luck!
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Speak up, folks!
He finished the test. 12:04 This is disappointing to me too. It is error for an LTS. And the drop video, keyboard and mouse caught recently. And the worst: only they who fought, namely that the Wayland're grubby, I think. I can say that it was because in the meantime I was installing a program via apt-get and the network card was operational.
Now I found out because I do not off Windows. I will continue in the VMs. But I have another machine here where I installed 4.12 on a SSD. Can I go wearing it, but the machine Home, Windows forever!
Sorry for the apparent weakness, but these silly little mistake occurring in the Precise have made me very angry with Ubuntu. Even more intriguing is that none are connected to Unity.
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I tried but gave up tbm. Ai thought to Drop that right
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Canonical Ubuntu spoiled. Why do not you try another distro, like OpenSUSE or Mageia
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Being based on Debian. Could even use the OpenSUSE. I think a nice distro, but I do not have the brains to learn new concepts. I know my way around better with Debians. Can I use other distros in VMs, but as the main system I hardly attracts Ubuntu.
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The only "new concept" of RPM-based distros would be the package manager ... everything else is equal. But you can still try the Mint, which has been well accepted, or even as a national BigLinux.
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Hmmm ... Fedora, maybe. It is also a way of messing with the concept RedHat I'm hoping to get the new version of Mint. What about BigLinux, had a violent quarrel with some users there, just because we mention a topic here that the distro was abandoned, no changes since version 4 (we were close to 10.10 LTS). Disliked the distro.
I am awaiting the Fedora 17. Now, I'm really **** with that 12.04. Never watched so many problems using the regular versions, let alone using the LTS versions.
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The OpenSuse is not based on Debian (but Slackware and Red Hat).
Linux Mint has also worth testing.
But I noticed one thing, the Unity is very green yet, it has a lot bug, even in version 4.12. Conclusion, I installed Gnome and I'm happy. He is much faster than Unity and so far no bugs.
Edit.: Just a bug in Rhythmbox, which does not run right my songs. But not even like him (installed Clementine).
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I still have not found a linux system completely stable, I've tested nearly all, were the best debian, ubuntu and mint.
Here the new ubuntu is working very well. Able to easily run compiz, now found it very, very heavy even.
I think they'll improve it over time.
And from what I saw the canonical make your own kernel with that is that it will become paid How mandriva know
I think you better do a dual-boot oh, here I use windows 7, ubuntu and debian, ubuntu use as main distro, but when I want to play for the windows.
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Yes, yes. I know that is not a Debian OpenSUSE. Incidentally, I mentioned a few times on this forum that the OpenSUSE KDE is one of the most beautiful. But like, the concept is kind of embedded Debian, whatever.
I found the Gnome 3 lighter, but they're too dry. Give me miss the good old days of Gnome 2.x Debian and Ubuntu and also KDE 3.5.x.
So the problem is that I use more Windows than Ubuntu on dual boot. Because of this I started to use virtual machines with Ubuntu. It is a way to use the two almost the same time. : P-
There would be a shot in the foot, I think. Server versions up to go, but for the desktop versions would not be good business. Look what happened with Mandriva.
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If it were I would go with Ubuntu 4.10, which still uses GNOME. Compared to the current, he was perfect.
Or, better yet, Mint ... being the hottest distro of the moment is not atoa. Try to at least do a test with it, very good.
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I used Mint for a month on another machine. =) I was curious to him precisely because of complaints of the staff with Unity.
Complementing my previous posts, another reason for the preference for Debians is that I know my way around to do things in the terminal, especially management and system upgrades with apt-get. The Debians always have a packet for exotic things, so to speak. :-)
About 10:04, the problem is not like using outdated distros, even when supported. I am the kind of user who trades his every distro release. Until last Thursday I was using 11.10. He left the 12:04: 11:10 is immediately passed to me. The same happened with other versions past. Too bad the 12:04 am doing is very problematic.
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The LTS Ubuntu tend to be fairly stable, but we have to take into consideration that was great news to a version only: Unity running on Gnome 3, neither Unity nor Gnome 3 (which is not the direct responsibility of Canonical) has arrived the peak of maturity, the curious thing is that the problems are ranging from hardware to hardware, a user will not necessarily have the same problems as others, but the trend is improving as we move updates.
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What is the most used Ubuntu 4.10, I never had problems. The 12:04're in line to test when you give. Mint never used, but have heard good.
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I got to be 1 year only with Linux at home. At work there was no way, had the same q range from Windows ...
But good to know q tb you had problems with Ubuntu ... so no wonder my newbada was q ...
And will this emerging XFCE, see article posted today qo Morimoto there site ....
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The XFCE is doing pretty well, deserved to be standard in a wide distribution.
Here my hardware in Ubuntu 4.12 is running smooth, no problem, you're making love to see it's a shame that not everyone is having the same fate as mine.
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Ubuntu contributes much to the kernel, now "close" the core of the distro or even find it hard to create another. In the real ubuntu kernel has nothing that is not in mainline, even missing a few things in my opinion.
http://futurist.se/gldt/
Reference to know which distro came from which.
XFCE is standard on Vector Linux, but is not graaande original and I use
I still cheer a little nose ditros apt to install ready. Maybe a slack or even the VL can accomplish the feat of running one month or more without this kind of problem.
[] 'S
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Here both Kubuntu 4.12 and Ubuntu 4.12 are perfect, which is more than common when installed on Intel hardware.
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I gave up on Ubuntu since the first version that came to Unity. I use Debian. Plain and simple. Consumption of RAM 287Mb with GUI, conky, compiz, samba and nfs server.
This video lock-up problem I had at the Mint 12. You have to disable an option in this new setup - which is key on and off - but I can not even tell you where.
Ubuntu 4.10 - the best and most stable in my view - runs on a Athlon XP 2000 with 1Gb RAM and 128Mb video. Urban Terror 4 it ran without any problem.
Windows with Ubuntu're becoming much hype. Almost forces you to change the hardware every release.
Debian will keep six strong.
Who really wants to use Ubuntu 4.12 with old look, you have to install the session-fallback. It is looking like a gnome 2.
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Did within the philosophy Debian itself would not fit
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I swear I read "disappointing." Then I read the article by Morimoto and did not understand anything. Emerging, but now.
The most logical path would be this. The problem is the gap of Debian. I have an evil when it comes to distributions, like using news. I know I can be fresh, but can not resist.
"Ah, but a version of Windows has on average three years of life in fashion." Here it is. Exactly: Windows is not released every six months, and the news brought by a version accompany you for much longer than a regular version of Linux. I think not good to be home user of Linux. As for use in the company where I work would have no problem.
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Hardware, choose the most compatible with Linux, here I have a Gigabyte mobo with Nvidia chipset, Athlon II X2, multifunction HP webcam MS, all working perfectly in Ubuntu 11.10, and more, just have a long time Ubuntu on the PC. (I am a normal user).
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Use only Linux at home for so long that I can not think of going back to Windows.
Prefer change if the new Ubuntu distro to give wrong in my hardwares. At work, however, give me Windows machines and is what I use. But there have a Supervisory IT to try to get the ugly part of the Internet away from me. At home I do not want that kind of concern.
I'm tired, I just want an easy to use. For me, this is now Linux.
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I dunno, I use linux for so many years who do not know if I can use Windows more, the work has no other way, Windows, but as I have freedom at this point I take the notebook with the arch and problem solved.
As for ubuntu 4.12 I thought it strange, I and some friends used since the beta 1 and have had no problems, except one who has an older computer and unity became unusable, he decided to installing LXDE.
I know many people winless and nobody complains, your problem should be with some specific hardware, eg my netbook, an Acer has a bug in the bios that was corrected in Windows with a driver update.
The bug is the following, the wireless network card conflicts with the wired network which causes random crashes in the system, the problem occurred in windows too, but Acer and launched new versions of the Broadcom network drivers, so the problem be solved in linux you must enable network booting wired, so the BIOS sets the IRQ wired card and this does not conflict with the Wireless card.
Unfortunately Acer does not yet released a Bios update that equipment to solve the problem definitively, I believe it must occur on other devices with the same chipset.
PS.: When I bought this notebook because of the problems I had with these drivers and had not found a solution yet, I thought I'd use Windows on it because it came after turning on the support and they send me the update crashed the computer is not more , but they just could not, was the exact opposite of H4RD5OFT.RSD almost seeing the equipment because it
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Hi
Already tested in Ubuntu 4.12 netbook
Gives the netbook to run Unity Or is it better gnome-panel (fallback), or the gnome-shell
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This is where I can not even understand you. In my view, the Debian defasa much as Windows.
I've come to the conclusion that I like to use things that work well. I spent a good time in good with Debian., 2 and a half years to be exact. I just got it because of problems that began to occur after I replaced the video card (I'm currently with the Mint).
Since Fedora has never worked for me. I have already installed different versions, but the time always gave the boot kernel panic. But I read that link, I think u must be pretty bad distro ...
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It is also what I intend to find out. I have an Acer One Netbook model ZG5. I tested earlier versions of Ubuntu running for Unity stick, and seemed to work. I'm still with the latest Ubuntu with Gnome. I want to install 4.12 in the coming weeks.
I did not realize the problems reported by Phiron.
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The unity wheel well, only I have problems with memory because I always have several programs open, I want to put 4GB later this month and I am sure it will run smoothly, unfortunately the performance is below the linux netbook because of the ATI drivers do not are even 50% of which are on windows.
To get an idea, which came in Windows I run DeadSpace, FEAR 2 among other without problems, Linux can not view or HD movies.
It is a bug specific chipset netbook
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I'ma Linux user, almost exclusively, for about five years, it meets my needs almost no problems.
Perhaps my choice for stability (use Slackware always, sometimes two years to get a stable version, and I always do clean installs) and a good command of the internal system and distro explain my success.
I believe that to completely replace Windows requires a deal of expertise in Linux is not yet shared by all. Not always a driver is available for installation "out of the box" with two clicks. When the hardware does not help you "noob" gets angry and goes back to the course he knows better.
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It is also well read and not understand anything ... lol now that you posted that I understood.
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Emerging, people! In XFCE road to success!
Who disappoints here is the Unity ...
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I use kubuntu on all my machines and I have much to complain ...
Do the basics (internet, emails, texts ...), edit movies, edit audio .... very rare I turn to win ... but use as a game (eh eh eh).
My wife uses a note with just linux (easypeasy) for years and have nothing to complain .... sometimes rolls up when you pick a machine with windows ...
Now, it is clear that ubuntu and variants sometimes get in the way with software that has not been tested (at least so it seems) and does not run ... sometimes through workarounds (anyone ever managed to run xvidcap on ubuntu ) to work ... but for the lay user, "ta good" ....
I am one of many orphans Conectiva .... the Kurumin .... I fell in kubuntu (in season) and I stayed ...
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Dude, at home, I no longer use Windows for almost three years each! I've been using Mint and now Kubuntu 4.12, which is just wonderful!
Linux is only weak even in games.
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But you were doing tests with the Wayland on your main system (Or at least was the principal)
It seems that Wayland is far, far from becoming standard on linux.
I'm wondering how this issue will be games for linux coming from the current giants of the games (and now emerging Valve confirmed speculation surrounding EA) since Wayland is still a promise.
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Wayland looked at www.ubuntu.com and ...
Sorry! We've Looked everywhere ...
But ... we could not find what you Were looking for.
Why not try widening your search You can do this by:
Adding alternative words or individual words instead of phrasesUsing phrasesTrying a different spelling
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Speak up, folks!
I'm cool with running in VirtualBox 4.12. The Trash is no longer fighting.
But in Windows you install almost any software Poide fashion he accepts. The only thing complicated when the system is well outdated or end of life forced by MS. This is what is happening with XP's own tools and many MS and a few games, but 97% of the programs can still be installed on it without problems. In Debian you're stuck in the mooring of integrated programs. For you install newer versions of programs have to chase unbundled packages, because you can not rely on the repositories. Debian gets old very fast. Okay, has the question of stability, but do not like having the feeling of using older software. It may be fresh on my part, but that's how I see Debian.
Oooops! so I said bullshit. I thought that the Wayland was already present in Ubuntu.
I've had problems catching graphics mode, is very rare indeed. But I think a mistake so stupid. Good, seeing the network card while the whole video, keyboard and mouse travadinhos ... Windows at least when lock is to lock everything and do not share the PC.
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So your problem is probably incompatible hardware, you know, I even raised the fact that drivers are incompatible with Linux, after all, companies are not obliged to open their specifications and etc.That, however simple, but something happened today that irritates and sometimes we have to take the plunge, my touchpad just stopped working after a while I decided apertantdo Fn F7 updates check the logs and realized I had updated the driver of it, as had the old version cache I uninstalled and installed again and the touchpad is working again.
This is a point that annoys me in linux and I can not understand how something works and after working for an update pow, let the package as it was
Now one thing I realize is that MSOffice is really a difficult barrier to break, and the interesting thing is that neither is a complex feature, it is as simple as a clipboard and office management with tables.
It has some fields that Linux is capable of replacing the windows 100%, one is in graphic design (if not taking into account the fact that most staff know just use photoshop and corel draw), the Gimp is really good, and this new version was not much news other than the single window mode, however, corrected most of the bugs that very limited use of version 2.6, photoshop has more features is true, but nothing that really force the person to use it, the same thing with inkscape, the problem is the lack of good material for people to study and teach and share knowledge.
Another area that he can meet 100% is the area of Web development, I know of no good tool for developing site visually, but the bluefish and Aptana Studio are so good that it makes little difference, lack the staff may feel is the fireworks which is good but I can live well without it.
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Actually you're right. We who are most active users can not bear to be without news for a long time, especially in the matter of applications.
according to the most optimistic, the Wayland should be debuting there in Ubuntu 14.10, I hope that Canonical is taking strength in development because it is a project originally appeared in Red Hat's in the time to retire the old X to give rise to a most modern X server, Linux deserves.
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Boy is really a matter of taste the same since I started using PC was windows at all, (did not know Linux) then Linux and now there will be one year and three months without missing windows.
sorry H4RD50FT.RSD
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H4RD50FT.RSD, you said you liked the openSUSE KDE. Have tested the Netrunner, a distro based on Kubuntu I used this distro for a long time. I really enjoyed.
brunces
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Then, the OpenSUSE KDE is nice, but I'm more accustomed to Debian distros. About the suggestion anyway KDE has lost the charm for me, unfortunately. I think distros should bring a fall-back (this is called ) KDE 3.5.x KDE itself as originating in the Windows version did until W7, keeping Windows Classic as an option. I've heard of such a Trinity but for me it's the same thing.
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The current desktop for both Windows and for Linux are getting worse ... am soon going to have to use only the Fluxbox. Stop treating me like I was a moron, please!
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For the first time I'm costing to get used to a Windows interface, although nothing prevents me to use. Just open your mind to new, after all, the guilt of it all is this fad tablet. However, the brick is a tendency, no other way. I soon got used with Unity. KDE 3.5.10 after the kind of died for me. The Gnome 3 is far too simple and not very customizable. The output would be XFCE or LXDE, but I got used to them. I must be too gnomizado 2.3x.
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How are you, Hard
There is a Trinity, which can be installed as an alternative desktop environment, and also the ISO with it pre-installed on Ubuntu (until 10:04):
http://apt.pearsoncomputing.net/cdimages/
Inté. ..
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Yeah, that would comment. The 4.12 version of Xubuntu is simply excellent. Simple, stable and functional.
H4RD50FT.RSD, take a chance on Xubuntu.
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Too bad I have not seen this topic before.
I insist that you use Debian. What is the problem of delay it, anyway Kernel (modules / drivers)
I'm using Debian Squeeze with Kernel 3.2 of Wheezy, and everything is perfect here.
Try there too, it's worth.
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Xubuntu virtual machine only. = /
Kensou, can be a freshness, but do not like having the feeling of using a distro that contains programs with older versions. I like using current distros, so that when launching a new version of Ubuntu here I migrate to the new version. I am a user of desktop Linux for fun and curiosity.
This post may come as the reactions described below:
"Ah, but Windows is released every three years and is outdated anyway."
For the above sentence I can reply that Windows is Windows, Linux is Linux and Linux is not Windows. Maybe if Ubuntu did not exist I would be using just the Debian Linux-based is more like that I identify.
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More lagged, but exactly why it is more stable and gives (much) less headache.
But that's okay.
Have you tried any Linux Mint They have a version based on Debian Testing (newer packages).
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Oops, so ... man, I am not come to some forks. The Trinity is one. Never used it, but it is a fork. It's like the MATE. But thanks anyway.
I've used Mint for a while, but it is a fork of Ubuntu, so I prefer to run Ubuntu directly.
But I have some news. As I have two disks from within Windows resized the second disk and installed Ubuntu on it without dual-boot with Windows. When I want to use Ubuntu use the BIOS boot menu to start the second disk. I'm not winless (I thought it better that way) but I do not get stuck in a VM. =)
Thanks to everyone for the tips.
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Linux Mint Debian (LMDE) is not based on Ubuntu. It is a roling ditro release based on Debian.
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Curious .. A month later, people still try to see if you can convince the author of the topic to find a distro that will fall as well ...
To be more exact, it is based Testing.
The Mint uses the Ubuntu repositories, but I think it is comeciando to differentiate more, starting with Cinnamon and MATE ... And I think he does not adopt the Wayland ... Or am I mistaken
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I'll drop a rant here.
Linux works well for users, until you buy a laptop and have no support for WPA2 wireless linux driver. In short, people look for another distro decides that nothing else has a more updated kernel. We need to understand that the best linux is not the most current distro, but its kernel and its hardware support. With a current kernel, you will have to support everything that Linux can provide. But keep in mind that the last kernel beyond the "ppa" does not relate to your machine requires, because it is a generic kernel. Have to know your server, desktop, notebook, and assign him the role of linux on it. We know that the "core" of what we're talking about is being updated constantly, day by day, not 6 in 6 months as the most popular distro. What we need to know about linux, boils down to:
compilers, libraries (libs), binaries and configuration files. A depends on the other a sound system.
I spoke ... [] 's brothers.
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